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TheItalianSnip3r
January 20th, 2012, 03:19 PM
http://business.financialpost.com/2012/01/20/u-s-congress-pulls-sopa-legislation/

According to Financial Post U.S congress has ceased the bill "SOPA (stop online piracy act)" after Wikipedia went dark for twenty four hours on Wednesday. Not only was the bill ceased because of Wikipedia, but because of the protests, and other various internet blackouts.

Republican Lamar Smith stated “I have heard from the critics and I take seriously their concerns regarding proposed legislation to address the problem of online piracy,” Smith continued on to state

"It is clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products,”

Wolfcry044
January 20th, 2012, 03:46 PM
Good. There are other ways of dealing with piracy than making a law like that one.

Rev. Hankster
January 20th, 2012, 04:23 PM
They already have copyright laws in place.

SN1P3R001
January 20th, 2012, 04:24 PM
It's not over. Not even close. We can push this back and back and back, but someday someone else will bring it up again. Or something like it.

Honestly, if something like SOPA/PIPA did pass someday, it'd be a nice eye-opener for the American public. Americans seem to enjoy using protesting techniques that require minimal action, and continue to use them when they've proven to be ineffective. This whole "one person can make a difference" thing is a load of bull. This whole "occupy everything" do-nothing slump the American people is in is a load of bull.

People have NO IDEA the amount of work and effort it would ACTUALLY take on the public's to stop something like this dead in its tracks once and for all. People will change their facebook pictures to stop domestic violence, sign an online petition to put an end to SOPA, boycott gas for a day to stop, or recycle every SCRAP of stuff in their homes to make a difference in the world. Well news flash, it doesn't work. People want to stop things, but almost NONE of them are willing to go the distance to do it.

You wanna' stop some crappy legislation? Okay, cool. You gonna' take time off work to go down to D.C.? You gonna' go knock on the door of the dork who suggested it and ask him why he did it? How about making sure that every politician who backs it NEVER gets elected AGAIN? Or boycotting companies or organizations that support it (a LOT harder than it sounds)? No, you don't want to do any of those things?

Then deal with it. Americans need to get it through their thick skulls that throwing pebbles at Godzilla isn't gonna' work anymore. It needs to get worse before it gets better. Something like SOPA passing woulda' done us lazy fools some good, especially with regards to standing up for our rights. Nobody seems to want to do that anymore, and it's a crying shame.

Wolfcry044
January 20th, 2012, 04:39 PM
Actually the defense authorization act has already passed, and it's worse than SOPA by far. It allows people to be put into jail WITHOUT a trial if they are even suspected of being an extremist. And they have a list of different types of people who can be suspected. For instance if you store food in your house to last more than a week you can be considered an extremist. If you store up guns then you are considered an extremist, if you have ammunition that is weather proofed, etc etc etc. Along with tons of other silly things that they can call you an extremist for which could have absolutely no bearing on being one at all. It makes the military answerable to no one.

And that bill passed without much of an outcry while everyone freaks out about SOPA. lol?

Rev. Hankster
January 20th, 2012, 04:42 PM
Tell me exactly what parts of the bill you don't like.

SN1P3R001
January 20th, 2012, 04:46 PM
@Wolf:

It's because more people would get affected by SOPA. Most people don't give a crap about getting held indefinitely because they're not involved with anything that can even be misconstrued as extremist behavior... But they do care about not being able to watch their favorite song on Youtube on a channel other than the producer's.

Here's a more typical example: If Todd's teacher told his class they can't use cell phones in class, would Todd care if he never BROUGHT his phone to class? No, of course not.

Exactly the same idea.

Wolfcry044
January 20th, 2012, 04:54 PM
Not the point. Peoples freedoms are being taken away and they smile and say thank you.
So you're saying it's ok for people to get arrested because they are storing food up in case of emergency? It's ok for people to get arrested for having a gun collection even though having guns in this country isn't illegal?

You go down that path, the government can tag you as anything they want simply because you looked at them wrong. It's called the start of a totalitarian regime where the people have no say anymore and can be snapped up without trial or real reason for any reason they want to make up.

Do you really want to go down that road with a smile on your face?

SN1P3R001
January 20th, 2012, 05:07 PM
@Wolf again:

I was just explaining why people were fussing over SOPA and not the NDAA, so I'll assume you weren't talking to me. =)

Wolfcry044
January 20th, 2012, 05:43 PM
No, talking in general to those people

sudjj
January 21st, 2012, 12:47 AM
Can anyone explain me what is kinda happening cuz i really don,t understand anything what they saying :P.

Gazer22
January 21st, 2012, 12:51 AM
Can anyone explain me what is kinda happening cuz i really don,t understand anything what they saying :P.

SOPA and PIPA are bad!

Acoustic Kondur
March 13th, 2012, 07:36 PM
Honestly, it's all horrible. I couldn't believe my ears when I first heard about them being even voted on.

Dwarf Ulf
March 14th, 2012, 06:35 AM
Woot, at least something good happened this week.

Terra-Immortal
March 14th, 2012, 07:50 AM
In short: NDAA is one of many paths, that the executive branch consolidates power. US goverment is becoming more and more centralized.
And don't get me started talking about the US congress- one by lobby group,- as all goverments are.

SOPA as like ACTA- an attempt not only by commerce to get more control over its content, but also for governments (influenced or not by comercial interest) control the Internet space, which have been seen as a freedom playground for many people. I remember when the US government had suggested a form of internet, where selective or politicly correct sites would be put on the main "speed way" in the internet and all the rest would be places on the side lines.

I will go as by saying that paper ( mainstream ) press was free at some point. Now the Internet and all its content in in danger of being taken over like the paper press.

Gazer22
March 14th, 2012, 10:05 AM
Guys, this is all old news....from back in January.

Dwarf Ulf
March 16th, 2012, 06:56 AM
Why do you have to be a buzzkill.